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S.E. Cupp: Katie Couric is a cautionary tale

S.E. Cupp
| Friday, October 8, 2021 7:00 p.m.
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Katie Couric arrives at the TIME 100 Gala at Frederick P. Rose Hall, Home of Jazz at Lincoln Center, in New York City April 26, 2017.

“Is she crazy?” read the early-morning text from a colleague.

“What is she thinking?” read a text from another.

“She can’t think this is GOOD,” read yet another.

The barrage of chatter from fellow media friends, all referring to the release of several excerpts from Katie Couric’s forthcoming, trash-talking tell-all, “Going There,” has barely let up since word first got out. And not in a good way.

The immediate reaction to the former “Today” show and “CBS Evening News” anchor’s petty and cringeworthy revelations from the people I’ve heard from was, generally, shock. Followed by disgust, then sadness.

It’s hard to imagine why a woman who’s enjoyed the kind of success, fame and power in a media career that so few could ever imagine would so giddily admit to being a bully, a mean girl and an absolute nightmare of a colleague.

Why, for example, would she needlessly bash Deborah Norville, whom Couric replaced at the “Today” show?

Couric also admits to icing out other women coming up behind her and even impeding their careers.

One such woman was Ashleigh Banfield, whom Couric writes was “the next big thing. I’d heard her father was telling anyone who’d listen that she was going to replace me. In that environment, mentorship felt like self-sabotage.” She writes of insidious things like “turf protection” — cutting women down because, she says, “someone younger and cuter was always around the corner.”

Not surprisingly, some who know her have come out to paint a clearer picture of Couric’s behavior at work.

One anonymous source says, “(Couric) definitely contributed to the toxicity (at NBC). Katie was part of a culture that wasn’t supportive of women, and she contributed to it.”

Any woman who’s worked a day in television will tell you Couric’s stories are hardly unique.

When I was first coming up, I’d been making the rounds on CNN, MSNBC and Fox (all unpaid, of course — the pleasure, they made sure you knew as a newcomer, was entirely mine). When I started getting booked regularly for Fox appearances, one famously insecure female anchor resorted to locking me out of the makeup room, telling shows not to book me, trashing me to Roger Ailes, even telling him he shouldn’t have an atheist promoted at the network. It was hurtful at the time; she and I had barely had any interactions. This was purely turf protection.

The star anchors weren’t the only mean girls. When I first moved over to MSNBC, one of the women in public relations locked me out of interview requests, while eagerly pitching my colleagues to outlets. When I found out, I was devastated. There was no reason for it, other than she wanted to hurt me and my career.

Which reminds me of one final story.

I was excitedly unpacking my things in a new office at Columbus Circle, after being given my own show at HLN, CNN’s sister network, when a head popped in.

“Hey! It’s so good to finally meet you,” she said. A veteran anchor, she had the show leading into mine, which is always a fraught and delicate situation. Is she happy about that, or pissed? I remember thinking.

“I’m just down the hall,” she said. “Come by any time, let me know who I can introduce you to here at HLN, and I’m always here if you need to talk. I’ll be rooting you on — we gotta make these two hours work together!”

Years later, I’m happy to say, Ashleigh Banfield is one of my closest friends and confidants. We help each other out personally and professionally. And we talk every day.

So when we chatted Tuesday, her fresh takeaway was this: “I see the good in what’s come out of this whole sordid saga. And that is, people recognize how good it is to be good to your colleagues, your peers and the newcomers. It pays dividends throughout your whole career.” Nicely said.


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